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Tolontan: After the medical establishment stormed the TV, primarily to “Daily summary” We trample, I received a message
yesterday at 17
It is known, in short, the scandal disinfectants. On long, it’s about the series of surveys that Catalin Tolontan and team of investigative journalists from Gazeta Sport showed that hospitals in Romania are widely used disinfectants from businesses Hexi Pharma, disinfectants in which the active substances have been diluted up to ten times . In short, again, it is a system. A system that fails to protect those who really matter: the patients.
“We went after a company as felt journalist Mona Dîrţu in a commentary Tuesday (nr 27 April) fb, but by the system,” wrote in one of the surveys, journalists who had series investigations about Hexi Pharma.
In an interview for Republica.ro journalist Catalin Tolontan says that it all started in December 2015 with a message.
“After we published in December 2015 testimony of a doctor from the Hospital for Burns on” biological bomb that wounded were treated at Collective ” Establishment medical jumped as burned. And rushed over to television, first on “Synthesis Day,” to trample us. Then I got a message from a man inside Hexi Pharma: “If you want to know more about another crucial factor of hospital infections, looking for me.” We met several times and gained confidence. It gave us recipes which asserted that occur diluted disinfectants. Everything seemed hard to believe because I was convinced that the state controls and that this was not possible, “says the journalist. There followed five months of investigation and interviews “Every time I talk to someone in the office is crisp, denied, saying” That’s what the law requires, more than we can not. ” Then insisted to lead us in the hallway. There took us by the shoulders and told us “- Go, please continue.” Well refers to your job! “- Nothing, please continue, do not leave.” That happens to the upper floors of the health system. Maybe it’s the hypocrisy, but there’s more: the feeling of suffocation that, come what may, must come out. It’s the feeling of doctors, directors of the ministry, “says Catalin Tolontan.
We reproduce below the full interview:
In your opinion, which is how the authorities (Ministry of Health, Prosecutor, DNA, DIICOT) ought to act after series of investigations related to the Hexi Pharma?
No journalist can provide the service that the state fails to provide. We do not know how the authorities had to act. We strive to stay within our profession.
But hundreds of hospitals are used disinfectants manufactured by Hexi Pharma?
Speaking of hospitals, we can give the audience an insight of how long the five months since the investigation began and until publication. To understand better the atmosphere. Every time you talk to someone in the office is crisp, denied, saying “That’s what the law requires, more than we can not.” Then insisted to lead us in the hallway. There took us by the shoulders and told us: “Continue, please continue.” Well refers to your job! “Nothing, please continue, do not leave.” That happens to the upper floors of the health system. Maybe it’s the hypocrisy, but there’s more: the feeling of suffocation that, come what may, must come out. It’s the feeling of doctors, directors of the ministry.
If you put on a board, we made this experience, knew the names of institutions on documents, irregularities such firms and silent, think about what it’s called that ?! There’s a word, but you’re afraid to write it and that can be considered crazy. We may collect testimonies.
What is the right course of action that you’ve imagined when you began to publish the series of surveys? To what extent it resembles what happens now?
We expected the government to react more quickly and firmly to protecting patients. Even if the actual figure of 5%, but not 5% of hospitalized patients means of Romanians 200,000 per year, of which 40,000 are children. Know any drug in this world who have dangerous effects incidence of 5% ?! It’s enormous.
You have revealed that since 2012 authorities had information on possible crimes committed by Dan Condrea without doing anything with them.
If you put on a board, we made this experience, knew the names of institutions on documents, irregularities such firms and silent, think about what it’s called that ?! There’s a word, but you’re afraid to write it and that can be considered crazy. We may collect testimonies.
In your opinion, what were the chances that the use of substances diluted to continue as long without the connivance of men decision makers in the health system and doctors?
The investigation started that way. After we published in December 2015 testimony of a doctor from the Hospital for Burns on “biological bomb that wounded were treated at Collective” Establishment medical jumped as burned. And rushed over to television, first on “Synthesis Day,” to trample us. Then I got a message from a man inside Hexi Pharma: “If you want to know more about another crucial factor of hospital infections, looking for me.” We met several times and gained confidence. It gave us recipes which asserted that occur diluted disinfectants. Everything seemed hard to believe because I was convinced that the state controls and that this was not possible. It took us months to understand the system and all authorities to admit that the state did in the last decade, no single test concentration! It seems to us the most important thing I told the people! When the state of hospitals and doctors abdicates, anything is possible. As one commenter on the blog where we post investigation: Condrea is the trigger, but her hand rule.
Not only in Romania, but everywhere struggling against enslavement of the medical profession to the pharma industry. Even doctors have a problem with that. You do not go to medical school to be allied companies, but support patients. Doctors ethics which I am sure will win.
Investigative journalists have shown over time the relationship of dependence that doctors have towards private firms (they pay, for example, expensive trips to congresses). How can cut this link counterproductive and dangerous for the patient?
As firefighters thought it was normal to be sponsored by those that control them, and knew this Raed Arafat, as in the medical field is considered normal. It’s a wide discussion worldwide. My feeling is that these things will stop because people do not swallow it. Not only in Romania, but everywhere struggling against enslavement of the medical profession to the industry pharma . Even doctors have a problem with that. You do not go to medical school to be allied companies, but support patients. Doctors ethics which I am sure will win.
From your knowledge, how many Dan Condrea exist in Romania?
I do not know. But I know that for each Dan Condrea, there are hundreds of Romanian who work hard and respect their peers. Mirela Neag called me last night, my colleague. It was tuflită. “Are you tired?” I ask. “Not. I cried. I reread what I wrote today, I reviewed the images Astoria and I do not believe in whose hands we have left together. A whole country at the mercy of psychopaths. ”
We are aware that it is the riskiest our investigation in the last 20 years. On its own way. If you look at their biography, that some are already the second time in prison, the story rackeţii Moldovan firms in Cyprus and Bulgaria, think a little and risks. First time to seriously reflect physical hazards
What pressures on journalists have been documenting and publishing the Gazette during investigations?
There was no, but we are aware that it is the riskiest our investigation in the last 20 years. On its own way. If you look at their biography, that some are already the second time in prison , the story rackeţii Moldovan firms in Cyprus and Bulgaria, think a little and risks. First time to seriously reflect physical hazards. And there’s a reason: people so devoid of empathy and discernment are capable of anything. They do not have much to lose.
What made you continue to go as Mona Dîrţu journalist wrote after the system?
It’s the kind of investigative journalism and professional feelings that I, and other colleagues from Mirela Sports Gazette I lived many times. But it’s the first of this magnitude to our colleague Razvan Luţac. Razvan made a decisive contribution. He is 23 years old and is already 7 years in the newsroom. And I feel proud that a young journalist for 23 years has brought people so much information. When the princes and kings Health disinfectants trade will wonder where they were fired, leaving crap strangers, services, or who knows what interest. To know this: a journalist for 22 years has revealed! Changing generations and, somehow, that this investigation would not have ever existed without the Collective, it is the legacy that we leave younger journalists. They need to be motivated, it’s their time to go after the system! And I think that’s valid throughout Romania, in all professions.
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diana time
yesterday at 23
begin to believe that we also have investigative journalists true! Congratulations!
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Sorin Codreanu
yesterday at 22
I think we do not know 1% of what happens in this country ‘under the table’.
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Abraham Magdalena
yesterday at 22
Dl.Tolontan thank you, but it’s very hard to think of all the consequences of this investigation! Somehow or another we are all, or should be touched! I honestly feel bad, nor can comment! Nausea and revolt!
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Titi Litra
yesterday at 21
I think these journalists should be protected in the rest of their days; what mess I did not get out of the house safely. but those who should protect them are also accomplices to theft, public opinion there, so were sacrificed for a nation of … guess what …
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Laurentiu Borta
yesterday at 20
The word to be said is genocide!
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Ion Marinescu
yesterday at 19
A simple question: how is it possible that a company which inflate the price of 70 times to win so many contracts? What’s the point to talk about product compliance. One such firm is impossible not to be involved in acts of corruption. It is obvious that this corruption is not limited to company-hospital relationship manager but is coordinated centrally from the ministry.
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Agape
yesterday at 19
My question is: why so few of the “intellectuals” and journalists engage with society in which they live? Why C. Tolontan and others who theoretically should write about the joys and problems of sport, do more for uncovering corruption in Romania on Dilema Veche or contributors can read articles and knotted deznoada topic I cringe abstract metaphysics, but investigative journalist any social adevarata.Cred they do not and those who are a step or more behind them, they will not be touched by the effects of corruption Roman society? Is cheating them, life will show that you can not live in an ivory tower and maybe if you go to live in Hawaii what is happening in Romanian society do not touch directly. Remember Joseph Sava? He died of nosocomial infections.
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Anton Neculai
yesterday at 18
Respect Tolontan AND SUCCESS !!! entire team
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Please, note parallels with famous ‘O Rose Thou Art Sick’ by William Blake, with specific reference to Englishness to remove further doubts. This is widened reinterpretation of the famous poem from the worm’s point of view.
O Rose thou art sick.
The invisible worm,
That flies in the night
In the howling storm:
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy:
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.
What the Traitor has betrayed is the ideal of love. His ‘scarlet fever’ is lust, but when it is satisfied by ‘lingering on her thighs’, the Traitor is shamed. He recognises that other young men go off to battle without high ideals and they too become ‘the enemies of love’.
Lovely metaphors – great Leonard Cohen.
Well I guess, it is fundamentally positive, and for a long time I just amaze myself at the beauty of the methaphore, the idea of the world as a stage, as the scene of a quest, in which the spectators are the judges as well, then i heard Leonard Cohen’s explaantion of the line of thought that made him write the poem. It goes like this:
“It was called “The traitor”. It was about the feeling that we have of betraying some mission that we were mandated to fulfill, and being unable to fulfill it, and then coming to understand that the real mandate was not to fulfill it, and that the deeper courage was to stand guiltless in the predicament in which you found yourself”.
It talks about the unvoidable predicament of failure from without, and the only right posture when one’s faced with a situation in which one cannot but fail: standing guiltless, in the predicament in which you find yourself. I think that is positive: not blaming yourself for outcomes of which you could not fully control.
And long ago she said “I must be leaving,
Ah but keep my body here to lie upon
You can move it up and down and when I’m sleeping
Run some wire through that Rose and wind the Swan”
God what a punishment ( the cruelty of the victim is almost far more than of the criminal)
He betrayed her , she doesn’t love him no more but she keeps her body for him to have sex with while her soul is somewhere else …
Damb, aint any Cohen song remotley happy?
The rose is the womans genitals, the swan would be his. The line “run some wire through the rose and wind the swan” would be the woman asking him to have sex with her. He daily performs his “idle duty” but he doesn’t love her. He has become an “enemy of love” for betraying his true love.
1. It seems to be about a man settling for someone who is not right for him rather than what his heart desires. He becomes an enemy of love, The Men of Action Falling back is the man too weak to take action and leave, following his heart. He has a relationship of physical love but not real love. He is a traitor to himself.